MISTICA: Re: Venezuela decretará uso Software Libre

From: Diego Saravia (dsa_at_unsa.edu.ar)
Date: Thu Oct 14 23:45:01 2004


>>people is already switching on these basis
>
>And people are switching back as well, for lack of support. Raising
>expectations is a dangerous thing, and can have a nasty boomerang effect.

The numbers I know shows an important gnu/linux growing, off course always
will be people going backwards.

I know a lot of propietary software with worst support than free software,
but there is an important opportunity in supporting people to migrate.

Raising expectations ... I love to raise expectations.

>These are interesting forecasts, but I believe them wrong.

who knows :-)

>But a contract supercedes a law since it is an agreement between two
>or more parties.

Never. At least in argentina. You can not change a public law by a private
agreement. You can not sell yourself for example.

>Accountability is key. One cannot be free without paying the price of
>responsibility; one cannot gain independence otherwise.

You talk about freedom as a comercial product. If you must pay a price, you
are not free.

>I never spoke of politics,

accountability, responsability??? you are not speaking about politics?

>but I believe you are falling into the folly of politics and democracy
>being one and the same.

I dont think so

>Verily, democracy was established to minimize and counter politics. Of
>course, so was Communism.

minimize? counter? I dont understand your point.

democracy is a way to structure politics, could be others, war as example,
Von clausewitz ... says I think.

>Most people don't understand the roots of the ideologies. However,
>politics is not a form of government - it's what government was supposed
>to have been created to avoid.

???
ideology, politics, democracy, governments all diferent, all related

>What is a 'better world'? Ask 10 people, you will get 10 different
>answers. Most of them won't include software.

sure!
but, probably they will include freedom, and in a digitized society there
will be no freedom with propietary software, with DMCA, with soft patentes,
with palladium - DRM, etc.
a lot of people dont know this, but it is not lesser true because of that.
Its our fault, off course. Our work is to let people know.

>Agreeing with your enemy doesn't make you right.

off course not, only a signal.

>They are two things, but they are not the same. Consider fruit: both an
>apple and orange are fruit, but one does not eat them interchangeably.

In your owns words, people want their jobs done, both kinds of soft could
do that.

>>>Free Software means rights, it means responsibilities...

I am not sure about responsibilities. I am thinking about that, but I am
not convinced yet. I have a lot of rights that do not depend on my actions.
Human rights for example.

>their individual software does not impinge on my freedom.

yes, their software could do a lot of nasty things, could spy on you, only
for example.

>Everyone cares about politics, nobody cares about government.
>Politics is about maintaining castes.

For me politics has a broad meaning.

>But if you get large groups of individuals discussing things, common
>ground will appear and from there advances will be made. This is where
>Free Software wins.

off course, that is exactly one of our jobs.

Diego Saravia



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